This is not enlightened or progressive it’s crazy

Scotland will let pupils change gender aged FOUR without their parents’ consent under guidance for teachers that says ‘recognition and development of gender identity can occur at a young age’

The Gender Reform Act is NOT law in Scotland yet, yet the SNP have went ahead with their guidance to schools as pupils return after the summer holidays and I have been waiting to see what ordinary people might think, you know the people who have been kept out of the loop, were not aware due to the pretty much media blackout on the issue, the people whose voices the SNP have done everything not to listen to or to silence.

Children as young as four will be able to change their gender at school without their parents’ consent under guidance introduced in Scotland. Any pupil who decides they want to switch gender must be supported and listened to in school following the Scottish Government advice. (Daily Mail) 

To have sex you have to be 16 years old, the age of criminal responsibility is 12 years, 16 to join the army but in the new SNP Scotland a child aged 4 years old is being told they can change their gender. You just can’t make this up anymore, what is it the SNP elected gender warriors don’t get, the law has not changed yet. Reaction has been coming in from around the world on this one. The guidance states that

Primary and secondary schools have also been told to put books featuring transgender people on the curriculum, allow pupils to choose which changing room or toilets to use, and consider introducing a gender neutral uniform. Marion Calder, director of the For Women Scotland campaign group, said: ‘To be transgender you have to have a diagnosis of gender dysphoria. What are they thinking? Parents will be very concerned to be reading this document.’ Below are some of the reactions:

ExpatK, Christchurch, New Zealand. They have totally lost the plot, I can’t believe what I am reading here !

Young Britons – those aged 18-24 – are most likely to accept the new gender identity of transgender men and women, at 54%.

Men and women hold opposing views on the issue. Almost half (47-49%) of women accept the new gender identity of transgender men and women, while about three in ten (29-30%) do not.

By contrast, men refuse to accept the new gender identities of transgender men and women by 43% to 33%.

Following a brief explanation of what the current requirements are for someone to legally change their gender, by 47% to 28% Britons tended to think that this process should not be made easier. The public similarly believe (by 61% to 16%) that a transgender person should have to provide evidence that they have been living as their new gender for two years before being legally entitled to change gender.

People tend to be fine with transgender people using facilities for their new gender, but not if they have not undergone gender reassignment surgery

Despite being such a prominent battleground in the trans-rights debate, Britons tend to support transgender people using their new gender’s toilet (46-49% vs 28-30% opposed) and changing rooms (42-45% vs 32-34% opposed).

When it comes to sports, however, Britons are much less supportive of access for trans people. People tend to think that transgender people should not be able to participate in sporting events for their new gender, but noticeably more so when it comes to transgender women (55%) than transgender men (44%).

My opinion for what it is worth – I have tended to stay out of this debate, not for fear of expressing an opinion but more that these changes are coming either way. The politicians, and especially in Scotland, have chosen to ignore the concerns of many women, and of the general population, and they will pay a price at future elections.

No one with a heart doesn’t understand that transgender young people go through the mill, suffer abuse from ignorant peers, suffer from mental health issues and suicidal thoughts. Most people will accept that there needs to be discussion and understanding of the issues around transgender but surely 4 years old is pushing that to the limit.

Nicola Sturgeon and the SNP since she came to power in 2014 have been champing at the bit to make these changes at the expense of actually running the country properly or fighting for Scottish independence. As we get closer to this becoming law more people will make their decisions at the ballot box, many will go Tory as Boris Johnson has indicated he will not change the law in England as it stands right now.

I don’t know anyone who is against trans rights, I am certainly not, but I also believe that there needs to be more debate, more common ground and that this should not go ahead until such time as the public are ready for this change. What the public think is important, no matter what the politicians and Nicola Sturgeon believe. By putting out this guidance the SNP Government are opening a can of worms that can only damage them even more and the cause of independence and if that is the case it will be unforgivable.

Other than the right to self ID as this Government briefing paper shows transgender people are protected along with everyone else from discrimination under the Equalities Act 2010 so is this a fight needing to be fought right now, and done so in a manner that excludes the opinions of others, in fact in Scotland when the Hate Crime Bill comes in it will be illegal to even hold an opinion for fear of the gender warriors reporting you to the state Police.

I can’t help but think that the SNP under Nicola Sturgeon are doing everything in their power to ensure that Scotland remains part of the union. Gender Reform, Hate Crime Bill, drug deaths, poor educational attainment, poverty and unemployment, a health crisis, local authority cuts. The list of failure gets longer by the day and I am at the point where I just want this SNP Government and First Minister gone before it is too late and we lose it all.

Transgender Schools Guidance

 

 

 

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23 Responses to This is not enlightened or progressive it’s crazy

  1. panda paws says:

    “I don’t know anyone who is against trans rights,”

    Indeed, most believe that trans people should be able to live their lives free from abuse or discrimination but they already have that right. Trans people have the same rights as everyone else. What they can’t have is women’s sex based rights.

    Transwomen are transwomen
    Transmen are transmen.

    Humans, indeed all mammals, can’t change sex. Ever.

  2. Wee Chid says:

    It’s almost as if “somebody” wants to push Scotland to the right and get us to vote No to independence because the govt we chose proved to be so bloody incompetent. I really hope that all those who wouldn’t believe this was happening are having their eyes opened. Pity it’s too late. Beam me up Scotty – I’ve had it with this place.

    • Wee Chid

      I just don’t see the need for this right now when there is more discussion to be had, especially with women and girls. I also think some parents might not be all that happy that the state is taking more of a role in what children are taught which could be seen as moral and religious issues for some.

      Thanks for commenting.
      Bruce

  3. duncanio says:

    “Scotland will let pupils change gender aged FOUR without their parents’ consent”.

    Someday the f**kwits behind this policy will be put on trial for crimes against humanity.

    • Duncanio

      It is crazy at this point, GRA is not law yet and the state are going too far possibly. How are they going to appease parents from catholic or Muslim backgrounds, are they going to exempt those schools from this, if so how will the others feel. You can’t make up the stupidity of the SNP anymore. There is no need for this right now when more discussion is needed with women and girls in particular.

      Thanks for commenting.
      Bruce

  4. How the **** did we sleepwalk into the midst of this utter insanity? When I was 4 I didn’t know if I wanted to be Spiderman or Superman.

    These New SNP loonies have GOT to be stopped. How on earth can anyone, other than a miniscule few who probably shouldn’t be out on their own anyway, support this total bark-at-the-moon madness?

    How many folk are going to want independence with these zoomers in charge?

    • Dave

      I agree, this is crazy at this time for lot’s of reasons. The SNP have lost the plot and I am now at the stage where I just want Sturgeon and her Government gone. They are making Scotland a joke, they might love the nice wishy washy sentiment from abroad but they don’t vote for the SNP and right now that party is allowing Sturgeon and her gender warriors to destroy it, they have to go.

      Thanks for commenting.
      Bruce

  5. Brian says:

    No, it’s not enlightenment. It’s ideology. Have these people never studied history?

  6. panda paws says:

    Marion Millar hearing postponed AGAIN until 30th August according to @forwomenscotland twitter.

    • mooritcheviot says:

      Ah, I’d heard that was postponed. Thanks for telling me the new date. I plan to be there.

      • scotsmanic0803 says:

        They love to streeeeeetch things out before finding folk not guilty of ludicrous nonexistent ‘crimes,’ as is mostly the case, except for Craig Murray. It’s their standard mental and emotional and financial torture tactic to hurt a person when they know they don’t really have a case in the first place, but still want to enjoy inflict smirking damage. They are sadists and sociopaths and scumbags, real filth. They are a total fucking disgrace, and this horrible wee vindictive and hateful country does not resemble in any way the place I grew up in.

  7. scotsmanic0803 says:

    Sick of hearing about this meaningless topic. I don’t mean here, I mean in general. The unionists have got us all running round chasing our tails with this utter shite, whilst laughing all the way to the robbed Scottish bank. Tragic and disgusting. As for that deranged freak Sturgeon…saying nothing else.

    • scotsmanic0803 says:

      And this is from the Daily Heil. Did anybody check to see if it has any basis in reality whatsoever?

      • Scot

        Yeah it is accurate. I read the guidance and put the link there for all to see.

        Thanks for commenting.
        Bruce

      • twathater says:

        Just because it is in the daily hail doesn’t mean it is NOT true , unfortunately the 4th estate in Scotland who are supposed to hold the government of the day to account by exposing lies and corruption appears to be complicit in ignoring the lies and corruption going on , maybe the Sturgeon contribution of £3 million pounds of our tax money causes amnesia or blindness

  8. anandprasad says:

    These questionnaires need to dig a bit deeper. I doubt most people know what these words mean and what they imply. I don’t think people know what a ‘transwoman’ is. That it is a trans-identified male who may have had no medical or chemical change at all. And i don’t think they realise it means naked full kitted men in girl’s spaces.
    Wings did a survey asking about male bodies in women’s toilets and it changed the results.

    The Staniland Question is
    “Do you believe that male-sex people should have the right to undress and shower in a communal changing room with teenage girls?”
    but male-sex people is probably to confusing for some people, for those it should add
    ‘swinging dicks’

  9. twathater says:

    Unlike yourself Bruce I have NOT chosen to stay out of this debate , and quite honestly there has been NO DEBATE , if you ask FWS they will tell you how many debates they have been invited to by the SG to discuss those proposals re GRA

    A (ahem) consultation took place on the SG website where the FRANCHISE to put your views forward was opened up to the world to have their say , a franchise deliberately devised by Sturgeon and the twittler youth inviting anyone from anywhere with a vested interest in this lunacy to comment and attempt to gerrymander and skew responses from the people of Scotland that these changes will affect , Sturgeon promised that the responses to the consultation would be published but recently when asked she REFUSED to publish them

    How many governments from countries around the world invite comments and contributions on policies they are proposing from non citizens that do NOT live in that country , have NO understanding of the demographics of that country , and have NEVER contributed financially or otherwise to the welfare of their country
    The determination of Sturgeon and her cabal to steamroller this legislation through irrespective of objections and outrage is an indication that this is only a first step on the road to hell , already there are groups formed calling themselves MAP’s ( translated to MINOR ATTRACTED PERSONS ) again translated into old money as PAEDOPHILES , this will be the next new policy from the deviant and pervert party fully supported by the Greens and ignored by the other parties who also have their share of perverts

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