My view for what’s it’s worth

Well what a mess nationally. Disaster for Theresa May, good result for Jeremy Corbyn. Bad result for Tim Farron I think.

Not a good night for the SNP overall in some ways. Down 21 seats and lost some big guns but still clearly won the election in Scotland.

This is more a phychological defeat for the SNP but is also a more honest reflection of the state of play in Scotland. Tory gains is sad as they are a party of scumbags and all Scots voting for them should be ashamed this morning and I agree with this statement below 100%

 

It’s a blow to when the next Independence referendum takes place and I think shows that yes still stands around 45%. Yoons will also bang on that the issue is dead, far from it but certainly a rethink is required on the way ahead.

For me I think Theresa May is finished, Jeremy Corbyn safe. Tim Farron has to be weak and Nicola Sturgeon will reflect but has certainly suffered a loss with Salmond and Robertson.

There might have to be another election in a couple of months as the state of play is a real mess. Brexit will go ahead but not anytime soon. In many ways we are no further forward than we were, the UK is a very divided union, all the SNP fault of course, but seriously a shambles.

I’m not surprised the SNP lost seats, we knew they would, but am surprised a little at the amount. Scottish Lib Dems did ok but are irrelevant overall. Corbyn saved Scottish Labour and the Tories look like being in line with their vote share and have got the shame vote back but how many will admit they voted for them, not many.

Yoon gains won’t make much of a difference in Westminster due to English Votes for English Laws, that has bitten them on the ass lol.

Overall I wish I had went to bed early and not slept on the sofa. I still despise the Tories, I  am saddened that Alex Salmond and Angus Robertson are gone and that Jo Swinson the Liberal opportunist is back in. The media are spinning up the yoons in Scotland, usual shit from the BBC but where are is just a total mess.

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16 comments

    • grumpyscottishman

      inthesoup

      I agree but it could be sooner than 6 months. EVEL will make it difficult for May to win a vote in parliament and as soon as she loses one she is out, new leader and new election.

      Thanks for comment.

      Bruce

  1. billy

    the election just proved when the unionist parties and media control the message ie snp bad set the agenda focusing on referendum not policies the majority of people vote the way the unionist parties and media wanted propaganda works

    • grumpyscottishman

      Billy
      I tend to agree, but has that maybe always been the case? I think the SNP has played it wrong for a while now and have blogged and commented that they cannot sit in the centre and try to be everything to everyone. They have got to take a stand and be one thing or the other, they have to be clear on the indy2 issue. Just say that if this happens in an election then it’s a mandate for this to happen, end of. The yoons have done nothing but bang on about independence while the accusing the SNP of doing that when they have avoided the issue as best they can, total shambles. Another election on the way sooner than we think. Shameful for everyone who voted Tory, I have family that vote Tory and I just don’t get it at all.

      Thanks for commenting.

      Bruce

    • grumpyscottishman

      Lanark
      Totally agree, few will admit it though and Swinson being back in for the Lib Dens is a joke, total opportunist of the worst kind. Funny that Clegg is gone, good riddance to bad muck. Another election is on the way.

      Thanks for commenting.

      Bruce

  2. 100%YES

    I keep hearing that the SNP has lost well not as much as the Tories who was predicted to achieve around 100 plus seats couldn’t even manage to get the limit of 326 and Labour has failed to get a majority where as the SNP has achieved a decisive mandate by achieving a majority 35 out of 59 seats now in my book that a mandate for a further referendum on Scottish Independence. For all these SNP MP who lost there seats you are gone but not forgotten and to all the SNP MP who won well done.

    • grumpyscottishman

      100%YES
      It is a weird one, the SNP won and have a mandate but obviously being reported as a loss in most of the media. I can’t believe that people voted Tory, will they admit it though, probably not. I’m sorry to see Alex Salmond go and Angus Robertson but not Tasmina Sheik, I never thought she was any good to be honest. I suspected she was an opportunist like Swinson of the Lib Dems. We will going through it all again soon I suspect, May can’t survive for long. She might form a Government but EVEL will put her under pressure and will lose her first serious vote and then gone, new PM new election. Overall a total shambles.

      Thanks for commenting.

      Bruce

  3. George

    No complaints really. Holyrood unaffected and Mayhem got her arse kicked. I doubt she’ll be able able to dictate terms to the Orangemen. Saint Tess will be joining the ranks of the unemployed probably around the next Fascist conference.

    • grumpyscottishman

      George
      I think a coalition with the DUP really robs them of their arguments against Corbyn and the IRA now, I suspect the media will pull back from that now given they are in partnership with bigots, homophobes, racists. You name it the DUP are it, they make UKip look like babies, they are also the political arm of the Ulster Unionists, lets see if that is reported, I bet not. Mayhem is a dead woman walking, just a matter of time before the nasty party dump her, it will be fun. I was surprised the SNP dropped below 40 though so it just shows you how broken the system is.

      Thanks for commenting.

      Bruce

  4. 100%YES

    Will the defeat that has the SNP suffered be a awake up call that Scottish Independence is the true purpose of the SNP and not Westminster MP.

    • grumpyscottishman

      100%YES
      I think it has to be a wake up call to the SNP. They can’t be in the centre and expect to win, I have been banging on about it for months now. They have got to take a stand and we also need the YES movement to be separate from the SNP, it’s needs to be properly organised and let the SNP be it’s political wing so to speak. Hopefully it is a wake up call, less Sturgeon also, she is taking on too much, she has got to trust her staff and the party to get things done.

      Thanks for commenting.

      Bruce

  5. George

    Thing is the SNP need to put the lid on independence and any referendum for the foreseeable future, with 60% of the Scottish electorate agin the idea, bit of a dead duck. Don’t get me wrong I want an independent Scottish republic within Europe, nothing less. However realpolitik dictates a move in another, not dissimilar, direction. The SNP should forget about trying to come to any kind of working relationship with the Holyrood opposition parties, they’ve tasted blood so will refuse any approach. Would it not be better to negotiate with the Parliamentary (Westminster) Labour Party for Home Rule, it was their idea. That gives everything except defence and foreign affairs. Corbyn is probably well against Trident renewal, the SNP can support him in that and with the fatally weakened Tories, unlikely they’ll get any offensive operations plans through Westminster. As for foreign affairs, Brexit kills it, if Brexit fails then situation normal. Work needs to be done here to win back votes from the fishing and agricultural interests, the map is blue where Scotland is strongest in both of these.

    Apologies for the length of this.

    • grumpyscottishman

      George

      I think you’re correct, the SNP need to leave it until the result of Brexit is clear and then see where the land lays. The Fisherman in the East are in for a rude awakening in the negotiations as they will be well and truly sold down the river and all the bluster of Davidson will come to the fore. I don’t think Labour would do any deal about so called home rule, I have always said I could accept Federalism if it was what the Scottish people wanted but as you said, the yoons smell blood, if they believe they can go for the kill they will do that, we know how the British and their Scottish allies work. The SNP need to re-group, re-think, work on the domestic front and try and figure out a way around the fiscal trap that was the Smith Commission, I still believe that it should have been rejected outright, the agreement, that will run out in 5 years, could see Scotland really punished financially. The Tories might even have hoped they lost last night, I don’t believe for one minute they want to be the ones doing Brexit, they would much rather leave that to someone else. Brexit will be a shambles and that will be the time to take a look at indy2, but the SNP/YES need to work away in the background on the issues.

      Thanks for commenting.

      Bruce

  6. George

    “You have sat too long here for any good you have been doing. Depart, I say, and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go!” Kinda sums up Mayhem’s position nicely for me.

    • Bruce

      George
      Yeah I can go with that. Your comments inspired my latest blog and got me thinking, thanks for that.

      Bruce

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