I don’t get it, I just don’t get it.

So there has been a revival of a kind of the Tory vote in Scotland , however, no matter what the yoons and their media buddies say, they did not win the election, they took votes from Scottish Labour and the Scottish Liberal Democrats.

How soon people forget though, the Tories are the scum of the earth, the 80s and Thatcher were just the warm up act for what is yet to come.

I’ll be honest from the start, I hate the Tories, I always have and always will. They have no one’s best interests at heart other than their own. They have certainly never had Scotland or its people’s best interests at heart, only what they can take.

I just don’t get it though, have people forgotten our recent history so quickly. This is the party that presided over the growth industry that is the food bank. The party that brought in horrific austerity, with support from Labour and the Liberals, using the national debt as the excuse while they have increased that debt by hundreds of billions and given tax cuts to the wealthy.  

The party that are hurting working families the most. Bringing in punitive cuts to women with children and the rape clause, a rape clause. The party that are slashing funding for the NHS in England and social care funding which will effect us via Barnet.  Have brought back a new homeless crisis while moving us towards a low pay tax haven, while at the same time denying young people housing benefit and giving them zero hour contracts and the burden of massive student debt. 

The same party implicated in the Panama Papers while given sweetheart deals to Facebook,  Amazon, Google and Starbucks to name a few. The Party that brought in the most extreme snooping legislation in the world while suckling up to dictator states like Saudi Arabia. The Party that has grown inequality and hate, has u turned on most things and who gave the Windsors a whopping pay rise while freezing the poverty pay of the lowest in the public sector.

I don’t get how anyone in Scotland could vote for that party, the real hate party, UKIP unplugged. I am ashamed that people like Ruth Davidson and Murdo Fraser are smiling this weekend, that so called Scottish Labour voters crossed into darkness, for what, the love of a flag and a union that would not piss on you if you were on fire, I don’t get it I really don’t.  

A little bit of my Scottishness died this week as I came to understand that a small but significant number of my fellow Scots would rather vote Tory than against them. 

Shame on every one of you.



  1. b

    you are not alone..I felt unclean just with the results for the local elections in Dundee..3 tory councillors…all from the have areas of the city…disgusting shameful….it needs to be halted…renewing local democracy so community has a true say and a truer representation should be the starting point…we will always have to put up with haves and their selfish nature…but to out democracy them will be the best way to do it…

    • grumpyscottishman

      I do agree that there should be more meaningful engagement at the local level and certainly honesty. I don’t get how people who are less fortunate are voting Tory though, I don’t understand that at all. They really are the hate party and haven’t even really gotten going yet, depressing.

      Thanks for commenting.

  2. billy

    the ones that voted tory are made up of die hard no surrender orange order loyalists blairite labour supporters whos policies match ie red tories and anyone else who will vote to keep the union they do not care if this means hurting the the poor disabled or anyone else in scotland because the will do anything to keep their little britain together the question is after all the divisive,cutting nhs,welfare underming the will of the scottish people will they stay in an independant scotland that they hate so much or will they move to their Precious britain.
    if they choose the latter they will only deported a few years down the line by their precious racist union.

    • Anonymous

      It must be that voters are definitely split down YES v NO camps now in many cases. How any Scottish Labour voters could cross over to the Tories is beyond me, it certainly looks like union over anything else as you say, who cares about the poor and vulnerable. My end of Dundee elected a couple of Tories due to the voting system and that I must admit is an embarrassment.

      Thanks for commenting.


  3. East Neuker

    Let’s face it Bruce, these people have always been there. Some of them are protecting what they see, often wrongly, as their own interests. Some of them are sectarian orange bigots. Some of them are wilfully ignorant (especially the older ones who will just not even listen to any other views, and I speak as a pensioner myself who has tried to discuss with them.). Some of them seem to have arrived at a hatred of the SNP which they can’t justify or explain, and are all bitterness and bile without substance or argument. Some of them actually do want to punish the poor, the disabled, the sick and the weak, because “they get things too easy”- this group is best classified as c***s.
    There are other groups, the two most significant of which are….
    1) The people who do own and run much of the place and want to keep it that way. Sometimes they are clever, sometimes just rich, but they don’t want to share wealth or power with oiks like us.
    2) The terminally bloody stupid racist misogynistic scum.
    Scotland’s always had these groups. What’s happened is they have got themselves together to slightly increase the Tory vote at the expense of Labour. They’ll win a handful of seats at the GE. The SNP will still win 50 +, my guess being 54.
    If we see that a disaster then we are playing their game, and allowing them to win. I will be interested to see how the independence question is dealt with in the SNP manifesto

    • Anonymous

      East Neuker
      Don’t disagree with anything you have said, I just don’t understand how anyone could vote Tory but especially people who have little or nothing. I heard some people trying to justify their vote and they couldn’t, it basically boiled down to hate and ignorance, very very sad and depressing. I totally accept that Scotland has a right wing but you would like to hope that these people at least had a heart, obviously not.

      Thanks for commenting.


  4. Alan

    The Tory resurgence is partly demographic. Take me, I’m 28 years old. I was born in Thatcher’s final year as PM. I certainly don’t remember much from then up to around 1997. The two earliest major public events in my memory were Blair’s first victory and then Princess Diana’s death.

    So what does that mean for the 18 year olds this year? Those were people born in 1999, a decade after me. Their earliest public-event memory is probably the financial crash of 2007/8. For some, perhaps it’s Alex Salmond’s first government or Obama’s first presidency. They grew up, practically their entire conscious lives, under a period of wartime that is still ongoing(TWAT, 2001-?). Here in Scotland, they’ve spent the last ten years hammered by pro-unionist media telling them the SNP government is the source of all ills.

    And the old Tories tell them that when Thatcher got into a war(not of her own making either), she won it quickly and decisively. Unfortunately, that bit’s true. And ignores what she did after that war. Us people born after 1989 don’t really hate Thatcher for making sure there aren’t any coal pits to work in, or hot and dirty old-style factories. We blame Blair and Labour for not doing enough about it when they came in.

    And don’t lose your mind regarding our fellow Scots. The %s of first preference votes are supposed to be released today; if it shows around 23% of those went to the Tories, then their “momentum” is totally bogus. Remember, they were acting as if they would poll more than 30%! They can’t even scrape up the Leave vote(38%) whilst they’re busy taking pro-union transferred votes from Labour and the Lib Dems.

    • Anonymous

      I accept what you say, but most voters are of an age that do remember the 80s so I find it depressingly sad that people could and do vote Tory, the version we have now is even worse than Thatcher. I am not concerned about any massive Tory comeback to be honest, they will more than likely fall away again once the hatred they have becomes more apparent after June, and Scotland then really starts to get hammered, only problem with that is it will be too late then. Hopefully enough people will be convinced to vote YES the next time as the alternative is a horror we will never recover from, but saying that another NO vote and for me we are just a region. Hopefully it won’t all come to that.

      Thanks for commenting.


    • East Neuker

      Alan, I agree with you about the low number of fellow Scots who fall into the categories I describe above… I think it’s low 20%’s as you do. I was simply trying to answer Bruce’s question about who votes Tory, and suggest they had always been there.
      I find them sickening, but we know where we are with them.
      My concern is about convincing the relatively ill informed and confused, even scared, middle ground that independence is better than fascism and isolation, and that they should join the movement to be independent from an increasingly right wing state.
      The convinced independence supporters are, in the main standing firm, but we still need others to join us, and the Scottish Tory plan is to scare them and vilify us.
      That’s what we need to fight.

  5. Helena Brown

    Here is the problem Bruce, you are a completely normal decent Scot, so of course you do not vote Tory. I have met people who do and they all suffer from a.strange.form of inferiority. They gaze upwards at those they see as their betters whilst looking downwards with a sneer. They seem to be turning into xenophobic nut jobs, usually members of both the Freemasons and Rangers FC. You do not qualify in any way and be glad.
    Scotland is.not turning Tory, the people who used to vote Labour safe in the knowledge they would do nothing for the downtrodden are now turning to the Tories.
    We should be grateful, no great amount from yes gave them a boost.I would say the opposite is true.

    • Anonymous

      I saw the YouTube video of Rangers fans singing how they vote Conservative, first ones to moan about benefits, I don’t understand it all. How could you despise your country so much that you vote Tory, they make me sick.

      Thanks for commenting.

  6. Lanark

    What you have to realise is that for a certain group of people in Scotland, it doesn’t matter if we are in a hellhole as long as it’s a British hellhole.

    There is a saying about knowing your enemy, but for the life of me, I can’t work these people out. I am ashamed they have any representation at all in Scotland because they don’t deserve it.

    Remember though that they’re in the minority.

    • grumpyscottishman

      Why would they want that though? Are they really that deluded. I really am ashamed that people can vote the way they did in significant numbers last week and totally pee’d off that the media continue to portray this as a Tory scumbag victory. I remember the height of the Soviet Union and how the media used to rubbish Pravda, shit, the BBC makes Pravda look like the Washington Post. Has any country where half the population want the return of sovereignty faced such an onslaught.

      Thanks for commenting.


  7. Isabel Walker

    You’ve said every thing that I’ve been thinking 😣 It beggars belief …. and to see the Tory’s celebrating like are …. they don’t care exactly how it came about, just that it did….. I feel ashamed for the people of Scotland that voted Tory I really do

  8. Bruce

    I don’t get it at all. I think many people who voted Tory wouldn’t be willing to admit it due to the shame of it. I vote SNP for independence and Green on the list but my journey has led me to favour Green Policies the more I learn about them. The Tories are the scum of the earth though as far as I am concerned.

    Thanks for commenting.

  9. David Owen

    The bastards that voted for the Tory scum cancer where mostly English white settler bastards and the I’ve got everything brigade ie snobby bastards ,white settlers that contribute nothing to our wee country except coffin dodging bastards that they are who I fucking hate with a passion

    • grumpyscottishman

      I know enough Scots that vote Tory and English people who vote SNP. Sadly Scotland has a lot of Brit Nats and that is a problem. The Tories though are the scum of the earth and the sooner we are shot of this crappy union the better, they will bleed us dry.

      Thanks for commenting.

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