No Single Market without Free Movement of People

The Tories, and many in the right-wing press, seem to believe that the UK will get a good trade deal with the rest of the European Union because of the amount of European jobs that depend on UK trade. They allege that 5.8 million EU jobs depend on the UK. Conveniently forgetting to mention that roughly 3.5 million UK jobs depend on the EU.

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The European Commission has made it clear that there will be no access to the single market without the free movement of people, while the UK Government have made it clear that it’s priority is to control EU free movement of people. EU member states have made it very clear that they will veto any Brexit deal that does not include free movement and that any deal will need the 27 members to agree before any deal can be completed.

EU rules also state that any economic deal can only be negotiated after Article 50 is implemented by a simple majority vote in the EU Parliament. So where does this leave us? David Davis, Conservative MP and Minister for Brexit, has admitted that the UK may have to leave the EU without any formal trade deal being in place and therefore relying on World Trade Organisation Tariffs. However, the Head of the WTO has said that the UK faces having to renegotiate trade deals with 160 countries around the world which would mean effectively starting again.

Everyone agrees that negotiating new trade deals will be a huge task to undertake. We do have a wee problem though, well actually a pretty big one really, we actually don’t have any trade negotiators at all and those British ones with any experience actually work for the EU. You would have thought that someone might have considered this before the referendum, well apparently David Cameron and the Tories certainly didn’t.

This leaves us with many problems and in a really really big mess. To think the yoons and yoon media constantly said the White Paper didn’t answer the questions that needed answered during the Indyref. But I am starting to believe that, like the cartoons below, Britain might find the negotiations more difficult to undertake and the world a lonely place for the good old United Kingdom because the EU is not going to agree any deal without free movement of people.

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As the Brexit days go on, and things start to become less muddy, more and more people I hope will see that the only alternative to this almighty mess is a YES vote in any future referendum, and for us to remember that what we on the YES side have is:

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12 comments

  1. bringiton

    An impossible circle to square for the UK.
    For the EU,England cannot be seen to be able to opt out on fundamental core issues and still retain free access to the market.
    For England,free access to the single market is essential but not without controls over people movement.
    Perhaps some sort of deal could be cobbled together to allow Scotland to act as a gatekeeper but I doubt that would be acceptable to England who prize control over Scotland above all else.
    So,almost certainly a “hard” Brexit is gonna fall and Scotland will be dragged along with it.
    Still waiting for the Tories to explain the benefits to Scotland of no longer being in the EU.
    Think it will be a very long wait.

    • Anonymous

      bringiton

      You’re correct, it’s impossible. It will be a hard Brexit and it will be interesting to see if it forces the soft no voters to change their minds. I am definately yes for indy and yes for EU if we are independent but the Tories have f upped everything and we are all going to pay at least in the short term. I am definately going to start saving my info and links for the debates to come as indy2 won’t be that far off I wouldn’t think.

      Thanks for commenting.

      Bruce

  2. bjsalba

    3 months out and they still don’t have clue. I reckon they will bottle it, by hook or by crook. They may have an out in the supreme court – but that will require the MPs to stand up and be counted.

    It would be fun to watch if it were a pantomime, but it is rather more serious than that.

    • awkwardboy

      I’m not convinced that there is a viable out to be had. Circa 17.5 million wanted out, yes some have had a change of mind and would now be in, however if westminster pulled an EU rabbit of their hat what would happen at the following general election?
      Would the out vote coalesce arround a single out party (as happened here with the SNP after our referendum) while the in vote (be it 16.5, 17, 18 or 19 million) is devided amoungst the three cheeks of the establishment arse?
      If that were to come to pass is it possible that this new government of exit at any cost may bring us a deal that makes a hard brexit look like the land of milk and honey.

      • grumpyscottishman

        awkwardboy

        I can’t see anyway out other than hard Brexit, or I suppose Treaty change, but is that a realistic option. If any party goes against the result it will end in defeat for them so I can’t see how the government can do anything but just leave and hope for the best. Interesting times doesn’t really sum it up anymore.

        Thanks for commenting.

        Bruce

    • grumpyscottishman

      bjsalba

      Do you think the Tories have the balls to to go against the result, even using the supreme court it is a huge risk and would guarantee defeat at the next election I think. I think both sides are really stuck, the Sarkozi thing in the news about a new EU Treaty that the EU, including the UK, votes on is maybe their only way out as it does look like some within the EU are having second thoughts about free movement, maybe not enough but certainly a debate is appearing to take place.

      Thanks for commenting.

      Bruce

  3. awkwardboy

    “we actually don’t have any trade negotiators at all and those British ones with any experience actually work for the EU.”

    Look at the deals that westminster has “negotiated ” with private providers like servco; capita; g4s; interserve; circle; virgin and the latest one with china, every one of those deals lead to the public being shafted while the private provider will have an enforceable right to be feed public money no matter how badly they perfrom.

    This suggests that those who negotiate on our behalf are either not very good at it or that they have, so far, only had to negatiate with oganisations whose side they are already on and subsequently they have little to no experiance in negotiations with actual outside parties.

  4. lanark

    I’ve never been all that keen on the EU but given the choice, I would take it over the UK. The scariest thing about this shambles is that they are dragging us along with them (for now at least). Boris and co deciding us and our children’s future. Jeez.

    • Anonymous

      lanark
      I am the same but I will vote yes to indy and yes to an indy Scotland joining the EU as at least we would then have a say, unlike now. The Government have no idea what they are doing and the whole thing is a big mess overall. It is going to be hard brexit and all the pain that brings, I voted leave but you would have exspected them to have a plan, unike the SNP who had no plan of course or so they kept telling us, bastards.

      Thanks for commenting.

      Bruce

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