The Welfare Cap, my opinion for what it’s worth.

As many of you will have picked up, not from the mainstream media of course, but from blogs and serious news sites like MPs in Westminster voted to cap social security other than pensions and unemployment benefit. Only 22 principled MPs voted against this measure and 520 voted for.

The first thing that sticks out was that 30 Labour MPs in Scotland voted for this cap, I have highlighted in particular the ones that are very active working in partnership with the Tory funded Better Together campaign and are all very good at talking their country down, talking its people down and telling us that we are better together. They 30 are: Margaret Curran – Glasgow East, Tom Greatrex – Rutherglen and Hamilton West ,Ian Murray – Edinburgh South ,Willie Bain – Glasgow North East ,Gordon Banks – Ochil and South Perthshire ,Tom Clarke – Coatbridge, Chryston and Bellshill ,Dame Anne Begg – Aberdeen South , Alistair Darling – Edinburgh South West ,Ian Davidson – Glasgow South West , Thomas Docherty – Dunfermline and west Fife , Frank Doran – Aberdeen North , Gemma Doyle – West Dunbartonshire ,Sheila Gilmore – Edinburgh East , David Hamilton – Midlothian , Tom Harris – Glasgow South , Jimmy Hood – Lanark and Hamilton East , Cathy Jamieson – Kilmarnock and Loudon , Mark Lazarowicz – Edinburgh North and Leith ,Gregg McClymont – Cumbernauld, Kilsyth and Kirkintilloch East , Anne McGuire – Stirling , Anne McKechin – Glasgow North ,Iain McKenzie – Greeenock and Inverclyde , Grahame Morris – Livingston , Jim Murphy – East Renfrewshire , Pamela Nash – Airdrie and Shotts , Sandra Osborne – Ayr, Carrick and Cumnock , John Robertson – Glasgow North West , Frank Roy – Motherwell and Wishaw , Lindsay Roy – Glenrothes , Anas Sarwar – Glasgow Central.

When you add in Johann Lamont’s Something for Nothing speech , too poor, too wee, too stupid and Scotland not deciding the BIG THINGS with the above, a picture is emerging that most of us have seen for many years but that Scottish Labour followers continue to deny . The Labour Party is dead, not just in Scotland, but all over the UK. Labour no longer exists. The followers should probably go to Court to get their tithes back as what they think they are tithing for is certainly not what it being delivered.

How much longer will we allow this party in particular, alongside their friends the Tories and Fibdems, to dictate our future? A future that is based on attacking the weakest and most vulnerable, a future where they can save their own skins and their friends the wealthy 1%. There will be far more eloquent words written about this than mine, there will be better analysis and debate than that which I am trying to stimulate, but my opinion is about trying to open eyes and ears. Our country, by that I mean Scotland, is being taken away from us right before our eyes, we have to keep up the pressure, we have to inform, we have to highlight the shift to the dark side that is New Labour, we have to encourage as many people as we can to vote YES.

This blog is not about the rights and wrongs of how we support vulnerable people, this particular blog today is about the hypocrisy of the Labour movement and people like Murphy, Davidson, Curran, Brown and the HATE filled Lamont. It is time we got rid of these horrible, uncaring, self-effacing bunch of right-wing nutters from Scotland for good.



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  2. tris

    Unbelieveable that a left of centre party hat ponce thought of itself as socialist should vote to do this.

    I don’t think we should be paying benefits for people to sit around doing nothing, but the truth is there aren’t enough jobs, and many of the jobs that there are are not suitable for the people who want them.

    It is surely the job of governments to go after the kinds of jobs that their population can do.

    A fair number of our population have dads, grandads, great grandads, grans great grans, aunties, uncles who worked in factories, ship yards, mines, foundries, quarries and farms…

    That’s the kind of job they want. It’s the kind of job they are happy and comfortable doing.

    In my job, trying to help people find work, I’d be rich if i had a pound for every time someone has said… please can you get me a proper man’s job.

    But if you don’t like working in Tesco or Home bargains on pretty much basic minimum wage… tough. Emigrate. Germany has good jobs.

    Given their utter failure to brring the right kind of jobs to Britain, the government and thier sidekicks the opposition have a bloody hard neck saying that they are going to cap benefits.

    How I’d love that bastard IDS tyo need benefits one day.

    As for Labour; they are beneath contempt. At least the Tories have “self serving bastards” written all over the tin. You know what you are getting.

    Labour still pretend to give a stuff about people otehr than royals and bankers but in reality are in some cases even more self serving than the bloody Tories…

    May they all rot in hell.

    I can get on here, on someone elses computer!!!!

    • Anonymous


      I agree the system has failed. We no longer make things and any employment created tends to be in the South East and cheap labour jobs. This is the failure of repeated governments who just don’t care. We should not be creating welfare we should designing a system that loks after people and lifts them up. I agree that paying people to sit around doing nothing it not good but we do need the jobs. The YTS did me some good in the 80s and while not well paid in the main you were doing a real job, it led to an apprenticeship for me and many others I worked with but it also gave me a stronger work ethic which some young people just don’t have right now. I would also like to see more invrestment in social enterprises, these might encourage better o[pportunities. There is no way we shoudl giving billions say to social housing who then offer huge contracts to companies for maintanence which in the main is very poor quality and done on the cheap, we should be saying to them that if you want these millions you will do your repaires in house and aprt of that deal is you will employ and train local people to carry it out. Just one idea that would maybe be worth considering.

      The Labour Party are now dead and we have three tory parties, what a country.

      Thanks for commenting.


  3. bringiton

    None of this would have happened in an independent Scotland,which tells us that Labour are now a party driven by English politics (Daily Mail land).
    Those Labour supporters in Scotland who continue to “lend their votes” to that party are now saying that they support these right wing policies(solidarity with workers in Bournemouth).
    How stupid is that?
    Thanks Grumpy.

    • Anonymous


      I would hope that an independent Scotland would have a progressive social security policy that while protecting people lifts them up. I do think that the failure in the system has been down to the repeated failure of Westminster governments to create employment outwith London, even large scale construction has tended to be London so no lift in the north. Labour are a failure and no longer exsist, we have three tory parties now.

      Thanks for commenting.


  4. Iain

    If you look at the levels of child poverty in various constituencies (according to the endchildpoverty website), you’ll see a direct co-relation between high levels of poverty and the voting behaviour of the constituency MPs. The poorest constituencies’ MPs voting in favour of a cap were: Willie Bain – LAB Glasgow NE (43% of children living in poverty); Anas Sarwar – LAB Glasgow Central – 37%; Margaret Curran – LAB Glasgow E – 35%; John Robertson – LAB Glasgow NW – 32%; Ian Davidson – LAB Glasgow SW – 31%; Ann McKechin – LAB Glasgow N – 29%; Lindsay Roy – LAB Glenrothes – 27%; Tom Harris – LAB Glasgow S – 26%; Gemma Doyle – LAB W Dunbartonshire – 25%; Iain McKenzie – LAB Inverclyde – 24%; Frank Roy – LAB Motherwell & Wishaw – 24%; Pamela Nash – Airdrie & Shotts – 24%; Sheila Gilmore – LAB Edinburgh E – 24%; Frank Doran – LAB Aberdeen N – 23%; Mark Lazarowicz – LAB Edinburgh N & Leith – 22%; Cathy Jamieson – LAB Kilmarnock & Loudoun – 22%; Tom Greatrex – LAB Rutherglen & Hamilton W – 21%; Tom Clarke – LAB – Coatbridge, Chryston & Bellshill – 20% and so on including Alistair Darling and Douglas Alexander. According to Hansard, 32 Labour MPs and 8 Liberal MPs saw fit to vote in favour of a cap on benefits spending. Save the Children reckon this will push over 345,000 children throughout the UK into poverty. This must be an example of the socialism Labour were bleating on about last weekend and an example of Labour fighting the Tories, so beloved of Johann Lamont and Jackie Baillie.

    • Anonymous


      Thanks for the information, it really is shocking that after 100 years of power in Glasgow things are no better for anyone other than Labour politicians themselves. Why do people keep voting for them, it really is beyond me. I live in Dundee and we suffered years of labour and coalition abuse, the SNP are far from perfect and we still have some of the worst poverty and uemployment in Scotland but at least they try.

      Thanks for commenting.


      • Iain

        Hi Bruce, I was so disgusted that Labour MPs dutifully trooped in with the Tory-Liberal government’s side, that I decided to find out more based on the endchildpoverty website’s statistics. I can’t even work out what Labour MPs were thinking when they voted in support of Cameron’s government. Even worse than their behaviour is the fact than 51% of children in Spring burn live in poverty in our rich country. What kind of future do they have? The longer the referendum campaign goes on, the more rage I feel against Labour in particular. No wonder they wanted a short campaign. If Spring burn is an example of what Better Together means, the sooner the Westminster link is ended, the better.

        • Anonymous


          They are a dead party now and I for one can’t wait to see their faces when the west coast stop voting for them and here in Dundee we get rid of Jim McGovern MP. He is not terrible but he is Labour and I really want them to become as toxic as the Tories, it’s the only thing that will bring about real change and a proper Scottish Labour Movement.

          Thanks for commenting.


  5. hektorsmum

    Labour stopped being socialist a long long time ago, they just disguised it well. Unfortunately there are still those in Scotland who have yet to understand this. Surely this will reach the minds of those who have voted continually through the decades that they do not have your best interests at heart. How many in Glasgow who have voted for MP’s and Councillors and are still waiting on an improvement in their lot. May I also thank Ian for bring to attention the level of child poverty in these overpaid lackeys of the State’s constituencies, each and every one should be ashamed, but I doubt they know the meaning of the word.

    • Anonymous


      Totally agree, they are a disgrace of a party and might as well just join the tories as they are that in everything but name now. I really hate them more than the tories because they have feathered their own nest while allowing everyone else to suffer. They would rather Scotland be a shithole and they retain their position than for Scotland and Scots to change for the better, they really are toilet scum.

      Thanks for commenting.


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